| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1052
   |
Posted - 2012.01.19 21:44:00 -
[1] - Quote
Whatever tech Sansha are using to circumvent CONCORD and Navy effectiveness should extend to capsuleers.
Not only does this make sense in an immersive way but it also places high sec incursion income in line with that of low sec (and null to a lesser extent) but it also provides opt-in PvP for high sec dwellers in lieu of the Dec shield mechanics that nullify a lot of high sec PVP opportunity.
For those that don't like the inherent risk of PvP there are still decent income sources available in safer empire.
Edit: This provides a suitable risk versus reward considering L4 missions earn a conservative 20m per hour but incursions give a conservative 60-70m per hour.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1055
|
Posted - 2012.01.19 22:20:00 -
[2] - Quote
saltrock0000 wrote:you mean, make them easy gank sites. a falcon or 2 jamming out logi's at a oportune time could cost someone billions of isk. -1 V.Bad idea!
Eve as it currently stands needs to make itself easily affordable to more gamers. As time goes by more and more games are getting releassed/becoming F2P and eve certainly is falling behind
Low sec runners have counters to this and since you could shoot anyyone in these sites... So could you.
I don't understand why you bring free to play into this so I apologise but I cant comment on what you mean
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1055
|
Posted - 2012.01.19 22:22:00 -
[3] - Quote
Buff Jesus wrote:Would this be a registering to enter the fun kind of thing or a temporary 0.0 in high sec? I'd hate to be the person who's home turf got turned into a lawless war zone overnight.
I meant 'pvp zone' within the incursion sites only, not in the affected systems. That would be unreasonable to me.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1061
|
Posted - 2012.01.19 23:37:00 -
[4] - Quote
Vigrioth Stoneclaw wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Whatever tech Sansha are using to circumvent CONCORD and Navy effectiveness should extend to capsuleers.
Not only does this make sense in an immersive way but it also places high sec incursion income in line with that of low sec (and null to a lesser extent) but it also provides opt-in PvP for high sec dwellers in lieu of the Dec shield mechanics that nullify a lot of high sec PVP opportunity.
For those that don't like the inherent risk of PvP there are still decent income sources available in safer empire.
Edit: This provides a suitable risk versus reward considering L4 missions earn a conservative 20m per hour but incursions give a conservative 60-70m per hour. Thinly veiled attempt to bypass CONCORD. -1. Incursions need to be fixed, I agree, but this isn't a good way to do it. Oh and um...WoW...thataway >. You're basically just trying to create Wintergrasp in Eve. For shame Spank, I've always held you in such high regard too.
I appreciate what you are saying but this is hardly a 'thinly veiled' effort, I thought it was rather transparent. It doesnt make the entirety of high sec a 'gank zone' but rather turns the currently contested high-income zero risk incursions into something more akin to low sec combat, but with equal inherent rewards. I dont think you need to be so paranoid as what I propose only affects those seeking high reward PVE... but with a risk of PVP, and as for making incursions impossible, you only have to look at the success some people have with low sec incursions to understand that this isnt simply making incursions gank-zones but rather areas of opportunity in high sec.
EDIT: I might look into what Wintergrasp is but I doubt it's relevant to Eve,
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1084
|
Posted - 2012.01.20 10:58:00 -
[5] - Quote
Endeavour wrote:
Drunk logi, Fake Logi, Crap FC, Network issues, Mass DCs, Module misclicks, on and on.
Compared to easy mode Anoms and Tech moons Incursions are downright risky. Especially with a pimped ship.
Please do not troll this thread. No one is this thick.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1113
|
Posted - 2012.01.20 20:56:00 -
[6] - Quote
I like the claim that possible disconnects are a risk. Lol.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1115
|
Posted - 2012.01.21 00:31:00 -
[7] - Quote
Please explain the 'risk' involved in high sec incursions, and don't make me laugh.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1118
|
Posted - 2012.01.21 01:10:00 -
[8] - Quote
Please explain how it would make incursions no-risk duckshoots. 'pirates' could be shot at just as easily as 'carebears'.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1118
|
Posted - 2012.01.21 01:23:00 -
[9] - Quote
In this thread people defend the right to be incompetent while having access to high levels of income.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1118
|
Posted - 2012.01.21 01:30:00 -
[10] - Quote
How is it no risk PVP when everyone can be shot.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1118
|
Posted - 2012.01.21 01:40:00 -
[11] - Quote
You can scan and have a support fleet too. Non issue. You just want to have your cake and eat it too.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1119
|
Posted - 2012.01.21 02:02:00 -
[12] - Quote
Sounds good to me. If you aren't prepared to earn your high income you can go back to mission running.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1119
|
Posted - 2012.01.21 02:03:00 -
[13] - Quote
Ai Shun wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Question, sorry if already answered. Would this be for the entire constellation or just the sites? I believe the proposal is to have slower CONCORD response to the actual Incursion site. The system itself remains normal.
No CONCORD, sites not systems.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1121
|
Posted - 2012.01.21 02:18:00 -
[14] - Quote
Slower CONCORD does not allow for equal fights or contesting incursions since you start a fight, get scenes then inevitably down. pointless
And I'm the OP
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1121
|
Posted - 2012.01.21 03:02:00 -
[15] - Quote
Haulerboi wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Whatever tech Sansha are using to circumvent CONCORD and Navy effectiveness should extend to capsuleers.
Translation: Mommy!, mommy! I'm so terrible at PVP I can't kill anything without CCP making the game easy for me.  Quit whining. HTFU or GTFO
Confirming you really have me figured out.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1127
|
Posted - 2012.01.21 05:01:00 -
[16] - Quote
Chief Cheeba wrote:this is the type of idea only an idiotic cowardly sociopath could support
pirate tears are so sweet
%^$gankers!!1!*%#
etc
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1128
|
Posted - 2012.01.21 07:42:00 -
[17] - Quote
Competent people will run them, incompetents can stick to lower income activities.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1141
|
Posted - 2012.01.21 20:20:00 -
[18] - Quote
Again, if people can run incursions in low sec, there's nothing stopping people doing the same in high-sec. No one is suggesting fish in a barrel, that would be ridiculous. Please try and remain at least partially subjective in your counter arguments. Not posting on troll alts might also help your stance hold merit.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1157
|
Posted - 2012.01.22 05:39:00 -
[19] - Quote
Interesting ideas, thank you for your contribution. Randomised effects could go some way to combating cookie cutter fleets and reward the organised.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1194
|
Posted - 2012.01.23 15:06:00 -
[20] - Quote
Xpaulusx wrote:Mr Kidd wrote:[quote=Lady Spank]...if people can run incursions in low sec, there's nothing stopping people doing the same in high-sec.../quote]
Except the people who run losec incursions aren't the people who run hisec incursion. Look, if you want to club baby seals just say it already and stop trying to present this idea as anything but.
+1 risk free PvP how Leet. lol On a more serious note i like jayems idea/ solution.
Explain how it is risk free considering the same conditions apply for both sides.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1198
|
Posted - 2012.01.23 15:45:00 -
[21] - Quote
Violet Vayu wrote:Op has a really good idea here Ccp! This would stop all the whining, and let people settle this in proper eve fashion by blowing each other up 
Finally, someone that GETS Eve in this thread 
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
1212
|
Posted - 2012.01.23 17:06:00 -
[22] - Quote
Marlona Sky wrote:The thought is nice, but I'm convinced all it would be is gank squads on standby to warp on top of any group who dares to try and do any Incursion sites. Thus, kill the entire concept of Incursions in high sec.
Unless of course that was your entire goal?
It wasnt my goal but it's fairly apparent that without some kind of magical bending of mechanics this is in all likelihood what would happen.
At least it provoked some discussion, which is all I hoped for of course. No harm in chewing the fat.
(a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
| |
|